A LEGAL LETTER FOR THE COLLECTION FROM “TRAIN2GAME”
We have declared a new ENEMY!
Train2Game, a trading name of Metropolitan International Schools Ltd, is not happy about this and this in which the usefulness and sales practices of its get-a-job-in-games courses were questioned by several UKR readers. It has complained to YouTube and had the videos pulled, now it has sent us a legal letter demanding our updates are taken down. No one said PLEASE.
Had it asked nicely we perhaps may have complied. We are sometimes capable of basic human kindness.
Sadly, we now have to inform Train2Game that because it did not say please a state of ENEMIES now exists between UK Resistance, Train2Game and all associated subsidiaries of Metropolitan International Schools Ltd. This is very exciting.
We can only hope that news of this legal threat doesn’t cause more damage to Train2Game’s battered reputation. Kindly old Bruce has already outed them, twice in fact, pointing out that they tried to sue Google (!), plus the Advertising Standards Agency has upheld complaints about the parent company’s practices before.
You know a company is a bit odd when it tries to shut down Google. Would you want to give money to an operation that tries to hide opinions of its customers from the public? We can only hope this page doesn’t go on to feature highly in Google’s search rankings when people research Train2Game in future!
Even posts on Train2Games’ official forum question the course’s usefulness, the bizarre £5k-upfront loan scheme it offers, the ownership of the operation and the difficulty of cancelling a course. And those are the officially sanctioned posts – imagine what the ones they delete must be like.
Tony, the reason everyone on the internet thinks T2G is a “scam” is because you try to censor search engine results and force sites and forums to delete valid debates. It’s pretty simple.
Train2Game is clearly unaware of the SCARS WE BEAR. We would rather crash our ship into their ship wiping both of us out than surrender as directed. The self-destruct procedure has been initiated. Riker is being very brave about it, although Deanna looks like she might be about to start crying.
OUR TERMS OF SURRENDER:
If the MD of Train2Game sends us a polite email asking nicely for the updates to be taken down along with a photo of him doing a “thumbs up” in front of a screen showing UK Resistance to put in their place, we will be happy to comply and remove the pages.
FURTHER READING:
Sorry this is such a boring company to declare enemies on, but they did start it.READY-UP: “In the welcome pack all the lessons exactly copied word for word, picture for picture from the tutorials on the GameMaker website, and as you all know GameMaker is freeware and completely independent.”
NEWRETRO: “I honestly see this is as straight forward miss-selling of the qualification considering it’s not even a degree equivalent and is a new course”
HEXUS: “…in the meantime, i’d like to reiterate our request for everyone’s co-operation and that – until further notice – please will all HEXUS.community members refrain from creating any more threads or making any posts regarding ‘Train2Game’, Metropolitan International Schools Limited or any other of its trading styles such as ‘SkillsTrain’.”
ANGRY MAN: “The online tutors do not reply to your queries and I even attempted to cancel the course payments within the time that was allowed. But they tried to convince me to write a letter and waste more time! I have emailed them repeatedly and to no surprise they still have ignored me.”
CHAOS ENGINE: “I am being threatened with libel again! This time by the people behind Train2Game.”
TRAIN2GAME’S PRETEND BLOGS
http://traintogame.blogspot.com/
http://train2game.wordpress.com/
http://jantelensky.blogspot.com/
HAVE A STORY ABOUT T2G?
Please let us know. We’ll compile a Word document and put it in with the black box flight data recorder to be recovered after the detonation.
filed in ENEMIES on Oct.29, 2009
October 29th, 2009 on 11:59 am
Please keep your comments on the legal side. A lot of very dull men will be pressing PRINT SCREEN today and I don’t want to get a £200,000 fine because one of you fuckers makes a joke about T2G being operated by rapists via the prison internet during recreational periods.
October 29th, 2009 on 12:12 pm
Bravo for having the balls to post this up, I saw it briefly yesterday and wanted to watch the videos but it disappeared before I had chance…
As far as I can see they wouldn’t have a leg to stand on if they tried to pres libel charges. The claims people are making seem to be based upon fact and empirical evidence, so it’s pretty damn difficult for Train2Game to refute them.
I don’t think there should be any terms of surrender! Companies like this need outting for what they are, if only to save a few poor sods from parting with 5 grand. If the Internet’s not good for freedom of speech it’s not good for anything.
October 29th, 2009 on 12:18 pm
Oh yeah, meant to say – streissand effect anyone?
October 29th, 2009 on 12:24 pm
i wonder if they have a “happy games with blue skies” course. if they don’t then it’s obviously a scam.
October 29th, 2009 on 12:25 pm
In an entirely unrelated dicussion, it’s upsetting that the rapists get 360’s to run their internet businesses on from inside, isn’t it? I know the prison service says that only ‘well behaved’ inmates get them, but since when did good behavior earn a jail term?
I’m still using a PS2. Who do I have to rape for a 360? Is it someone specifc or can I go for pot luck?
October 29th, 2009 on 12:54 pm
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October 29th, 2009 on 1:31 pm
Hooray! A new war! I was getting bored of the Sony one, as at this point it’s like watching a fish in a barrel shoot itself.
October 29th, 2009 on 1:36 pm
Can you please declare T-Mobile as an enemy as well. They charged £102 for 16mb of data (in the UK), and think this is fair.
October 29th, 2009 on 3:11 pm
Is Train2Game run by child rapists or normal rapists? I don’t mind handing over loads of cash for a completely useless training course that will never ever result in job if they are just normal rapists.
October 29th, 2009 on 3:31 pm
I can donate £0.47 towards any “fighting fund” if required. Book tokens okay?
October 29th, 2009 on 4:00 pm
WAR!
HUH!
(da da da DA)
What is it good for?
Mildly divering lunchtime sandwich accompanyment
If we’re crashing ships here can I bags standing on that bit at the front? you know, the bit that Winslet stands on? Cheers.
October 29th, 2009 on 4:18 pm
I think Zorg just called us all “fuckers”.
:`(
October 29th, 2009 on 4:43 pm
If you get sued for libel just wank into your own mouth on the witness stand. Definite evidence of insanity. Guaranteed to work every time.
October 29th, 2009 on 5:16 pm
Reporting for duty. As long as duty involves checking in every couple of days to find out what’s happened. If I’ve got time.
October 29th, 2009 on 5:43 pm
So… running a course using the Game Maker tutorials?
There’s shady and then there’s Train2Game.
What’s Yoyogames’ position on this? Do they know, because if they don’t they will probably be rather unhappy that their hard work is being used for someone else’s profit.
Oh, and Zorg? Sorry for spamming your email with retarded crap. I won’t do it as often in future :)
October 29th, 2009 on 5:53 pm
Bagsy being next to the Warp core! Probably the best place to be. Like in a nuke explosion. I might even get sent into a more exciting universe where all the alien chicks are slags and you’re still allowed to have sex with them because there’s no boring prime directive bullshit.
I don’t want to get sent into the same alternate universe as Riker, though. Don’t want any competition. Send me along with Reginald Barclay instead, please.
October 29th, 2009 on 8:18 pm
I’m available to wank into anyone’s mouth on the witness stand, in this or any trial, pretty much at the drop of a hat.
October 30th, 2009 on 11:37 am
I registered my interest on the website a few weeks ago, after my dad had recieved an email detailing the courses available (he works in IT, so occasionally gets good tip offs about jobs/courses/etc).
I was expecting to recieve some literature through the post, but after a few days, some wench phoned me to talk about the courses.
The phone call was surreal, the 15 minutes it lasted, she spoke to me a little like how you’d talk to a very young child :S
After answering a few questions, she told me an ‘agent’ would be in my area in the next few days, and that I should schedule a meeting.
At this point, alarm bells start ringing.. I mean.. “agent”?!
Anyway, funny thing was, she said how they wanted my parents to be present at the meeting (which to me sounds well sinister.. I mean.. I’d already told her I was 26..)
Anyway, I ended up saying that my parents wouldn’t be free to go to a meeting, at which point she got a little grumpy, and basically told me it would be months if not a year before another agent would be in my area.
By that point of course, i’d pretty much worked out the whole thing seemed like a scam, so I steered well clear.
A week or so later, a guy phoned me up from the same company, to tell me an agent was in my area (funny that..) at which point I explained I was doing an Open University course instead, so i’m hoping not to recieve any more calls..
Any company offering courses, that has little to no info about what the courses entail/cost on the website = avoid like the plague!
October 30th, 2009 on 12:50 pm
Please don’t side with or link to fucking Bruce Everiss
He is a monumental cunt
October 30th, 2009 on 8:54 pm
Tony worked for US Gold, makers of Journey From Darkness: Strider Returns. People don’t forget the evil you’ve created.
October 30th, 2009 on 10:24 pm
Shits and giggles aside, this country’s yoot is fucked up as it is, without shysters making up scam courses. Shame on you.
October 31st, 2009 on 1:12 am
I’m not going to be pressing PRINT SCREEN (whatever that is), I’m going to be taking a photograph this screen with me shaking an angry fist at Train2game (whoever they are).
October 31st, 2009 on 3:07 am
Can you make sure you take a photograph of yourself taking the photograph, just so you have it for posterity?
November 1st, 2009 on 11:42 am
Police Constable London said: I think Zorg just called us all “fuckers”.
Not all of us, just them over there. You know, them fuckers. Yeah, you lot, you know we’re talking about you
Bloody hell though Zorg, I go away for a few days after boring everyone senseless with my shaving habits/advice and when I come back there’s proper consumer advice articles warning people about dodgy companies.
What next? Something about Sony using Bayonetta to flog walk-in baths or a new Craftmatic bed Wii add-on?
Are you going to give us a wi nk like Anne Robinson too? Go on, give us a wi nk. Glen’s apparently keen to show us pics of him fisting some strangers, after all.
November 1st, 2009 on 6:23 pm
Good work, Zorg. This is UK:R’s most probing and incisive post to date, and it’s good journalism lacking only in that it doesn’t feature any sexual allusions to Sonic characters.
Oh yeah, and it looks like UK:R is using Windows 7 now. How is it? It might just be some unfamiliar operating system.
November 1st, 2009 on 10:49 pm
It’s just Vista with everything turned off and Google Chrome. I should’ve hidden the bookmark bar, there’s way too much sensitive information given away up there.
November 1st, 2009 on 11:09 pm
This sensitive information being that the STATS page is of such great importance that it deserves ALL CAPS? Or that the patrons of this site ARE YOUR ONLY REASON FOR LIVING?
Christ, now that’s a depressing thought….
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January 28th, 2010 on 10:34 pm
Worst sales pitch in the world ! All videos have now been pulled, any chance we can get them back up or host locally ?
March 11th, 2010 on 7:26 am
Sorry for the digging up of old stories, but they’re at it again.
Link – http://www.retrogamer.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20326
Someone made a topic, just asking a few questions to the forum about them, and the next thing someone from T2G has joined to defend it. How do they find out so fast?
March 11th, 2010 on 9:57 am
They find out so fast because they’re a bunch of aggressive control freaks, who Google themselves 50 times a day to make sure no one’s discussing their shady business practises and academically zero-rated “course” in public forums.
People who find this page via Googling “Train2Game scam” might like to learn that the man who owns T2G is the same man who owns the company that your £5k loan comes from, for example.
And they wonder why people accuse them of operating a scam.
In positive T2G news, I’ve had some interesting emails suggesting some sort of “comeuppance” might be about to unfold over the next few months. Hopefully.
March 11th, 2010 on 10:21 am
Positive T2G news? I’m assuming (hoping) not positive for them?
Unless we’re talking blood test results of some kind?
March 11th, 2010 on 1:25 pm
We can but hope.
In other news, I have actually received a leaflet from them through my door. In the nature of boyish good-natured mischief I have made good use of it – http://bedroomcoder.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/arent-train2game-lovely/
March 13th, 2010 on 10:31 am
I would just like to point out that:
a) The person from T2G just WON’T FUCKING LEAVE, and
b) If anyone wishes to engage this person in dialogue the relevant thread can be found here – http://www.retrogamer.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20326
Just doing my bit… :)
March 13th, 2010 on 9:33 pm
Would that they would come in here to discuss things. WOULD THAT THEY WOULD COME.
Both of T2G’s known human spambots registered a while back, but obviously decided against posting for some reason…
http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/pics7/serena_and_naz.jpg
March 13th, 2010 on 11:27 pm
Tch. Are we not good enough for you, Cmdr Zorg?
/disappears off in a huff
March 14th, 2010 on 3:39 pm
Howdy, M.Zorg.
March 27th, 2010 on 12:06 pm
I note that Zorg is “Facebook friends” with Train2Game.
March 27th, 2010 on 1:19 pm
I occasionally slag them off on their ‘Wall’. When I’m bored.
March 27th, 2010 on 4:22 pm
Fair enough. Might have to give that a go sometime…
March 29th, 2010 on 3:47 pm
Why would a studio as big as Rebellion endorse Train2Game if it where either useless or a scam UKR?
http://www.rebellion.co.uk/#/contact/
March 29th, 2010 on 4:07 pm
If I had to hazard a guess, I’d say it’s because the wording on that page suggests Rebellion has been paid as a “consultant” by T2G in exchange for precisely that sort of positive quote, so T2G can put it on the literature they supply (alongside the literature they take off freeware sites) to try and impress gullible people by associating their non-degree with a “famous” brand.
But that’s just a guess. Feel free to educate us otherwise.
I’m sure Rebellion would love to get drawn into T2G’s rabid internet reputation management actions.
March 29th, 2010 on 7:14 pm
Looks like they’ve arrived, Zorg…
You should be careful what you wish for. O_o
March 29th, 2010 on 10:58 pm
By the way, I have just made an interesting discovery on T2G’s Facebook page.
They’ve put up a copy of their ruling against Google, and the judge is none other than The Honourable Mr Justice Eady. Anyone with even a passing familiarity with Private Eye will probably raise a wry smile at this revelation. Link – http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/photo.php?pid=2794083&id=74614360670
March 29th, 2010 on 10:59 pm
Gah. Stupid form. Why can’t I correct you?
Link (and this one works!) – http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs133.snc1/5695_114755725670_74614360670_2794083_7592846_n.jpg
April 6th, 2010 on 1:39 pm
These cunts have just sent me another flyer.
Is there anyone I can complain to about receiving repetitive unsolicited shit via post?
June 23rd, 2010 on 11:13 pm
Turns out they visited one of my friends today. He said the salesman was somewhat vague about the specifics of the course and that he was unsure about whether to commit £5000 to the course (he really wants to be a games developer).
I pointed him here, Zorg.
November 5th, 2010 on 8:57 am
We’ve just received a load of junk mail from train2gamemail.co.uk this morning, all sent to various local councillors, so I’m adding both their domain and originating IP address (92.60.98.112 (plus 113-119 for good measure) to our blacklist. Think I’ll do the same for their website if I haven’t already done that (I’ll doublecheck).
November 5th, 2010 on 11:12 am
Hmmm. I’ve just noticed that the forum topic where the T2G rep followed one of the regulars onto the board has mysteriously vanished. Even though it won’t expire for another 2/3 years (the board clears topics that are 4 years old). Criticism of T2G vanishing from a company’s official forum?
Someone call Professor Layton!